As citizens of Barbados we must all rise above unacceptable level of social conduct and as dignified Barbadian patriots stay focused on the important “ISSUES” at hand.
When the leader of the DLP Opposition David Thompson, showed the courage and leadership qualities to condemn the takeover of BS&T by the Trinidadian conglomerate Ansa Mcal. Sir. Allan Fields ridiculed him in the press in the worse way.
The very next day the CEO of Banks brewery came out swinging and said exactly what Thompson had said the day before. And since that time other prominent Barbadians have had the courage and vision to voice the same opinion as David Thompson on the matter. And had the guts to say so, loud and clear and on the public record, that it is WRONG to allow BS&T to fall into the hands of Ansa Mcal.
Today, another prominent Barbadian who has no fear has joined the chorus of others opposing the sale and he too has gone on the public record and spoken out like a true patriot of our island against it, just as he did about the influx of Chinese workers to the shores of Barbados. His name is, Sir. Roy Trot man, General Secretary of the Barbados Workers Union. (BWU)
How many more voices will be required to vindicate David Thompson who was among the first to speak out in calling for a halt to the sale of BS&T and other important Barbados industry to foreigners, only to be victimized by criticism from those too close to the deal to be objective? Finally, what we are seeing is a more united Barbados all condemning the continued and unconscionable rape of our islands industry and other resources by foreign interests!
While all of this is going on we have to be embarrassed by a very undignified, crude and boorish Prime Minister referring to the Candidates of the Opposition as “wild boys”. The Prime Minister of all people should be more cognizant of his political correctness. Do the DLP candidates not consist of ladies too? What are they dear sir, “wild girls”? And as if this conduct by a Prime Minister is not bad enough, he is at the same time berating in an equally undignified and disrespectful manner the Barbados Cricket Association. (BCA)
How can a Prime Minister act in this bush league manner that even members of the press are calling into question and expect this conduct not to cause disdain for him, by Barbadians as it relates to his competency, professionalism and leadership qualities?
The time is now ripe for the people of Barbados to unite and send this arrogant, uncaring and boorish Government the unmistakable message that Barbadians are fed up, madder than hell and will not take it any longer. Arthur and his bunch of “jokers” seem to think that Barbados is now under their “Dictatorship”. Well Barbados is still a Democracy not a “fiefdom” of the BLP that show respect only to Foreigners and the wealthy.
T.D. Allamby
32 Comments
July 22, 2007 at 8:54 am
The Democratic Labour Party has been trying for some time to get persons to contribute through posting to this blog. We do not ask for the views an opinions to be in sync with ours but give perspectives, which would ignite discussions and debate and hopefully we will be able to glean important development information. T.D Allamby has taken up the opportunity to send us many items to add to our blog and we find it important to attach his name to what he submits. We will also accept information from others who do not wish to have their names published. We only ask that articles be focused and adds to our understanding of the issues before our country. The DLP recognises that it does not have all the answers and through its principle of governance intends to embrace our citizens in the affairs of Barbados.
July 22, 2007 at 9:06 am
Well said and you are exactly correct. We all have opinions the more the merrier. Those who cannot spell or speak clearly do not let that intimidate you. You like all of us have the right and is as loyal and patriotic to Barbados as any of us so say your piece and don’t worry about grammar, spelling or any such thing. There is no shame in not having an education and let me share this with you.
Has hard as it might be for you believe I have no education. I cannot do simple Arithmetic like fractions and all I know I learned from the hard knocks of life and by living in a big country. But what I have is a clean and honest heart and to hell with anything else or what anyone thinks of me!
I am sure many of my friends in Barbados is madder than hell at my views and to them I say that is your prerogative and friendship should not come with a price tag that you remain silent in a changing world. That might suit some Barbadians but not me!
July 22, 2007 at 10:05 am
T.D. Allamby -
We are not interested in you and your education or lack of, so dont start that rigmarole all over again like you did on BFP (oh, yeah). It is true to say that your inputs are relevant and good, if not consistent. And in that context I have a bone to pick with you. You stated in your post: “The Prime Minister of all people should be more cognizant of his political correctness. Do the DLP candidates not consist of ladies too? What are they dear sir, “wild girls”? Definitely politically incorrect and very insulting words from Owing See Through. In a few short breaths before that you were berating one Mrs. Valdez, thusly: “When I responded to her to thank her I made the mistake of saying “Mr” Valdez and once again she came back like it was important to tell me she was “Mrs” Valdez.” You went on to say that most women would have ignored it. SAY, WHAT??? NOT IMPORTANT?? You are WRONG and way out, and extremely chauvinist and inconsistent. This woman ain’t ignoring it.
What blatant inconsistency.
July 22, 2007 at 10:32 am
T.D. Allamby
I am not a candidate, but merely a proud female member of this great Party, the DLP. (If that makes me a “wild girl”, well so be it). I have been moved to make a comment on this blog for two reasons: one, is to congratulate you on your inputs on here, which are always interesting (yes, and as you admitted, far too long-winded). The second reason is to point out your inconsistency. This is what you wrote in one post, referring to a Mrs. Valdez: “When I responded to her to thank her I made the mistake of saying, “Mr” Valdez and she once again came back like it was important to tell me she was “Mrs” Valdez.” You went on to say that most women would have ignored it. SAY, WHAT??? MOST women?? Well, not this one, T.D. (does that stand for Tropical Depression?) Good Lord, how chauvinist. I applaud Mrs. Valdez for correcting you.
Here’s the inconsistency (unbelievable!): Referring to the P.M.’s insult about DLP “wild boys”, this is what you wrote: “The Prime Minister of all people should be more cognizant of his political correctness. Do the DLP candidates not consist of ladies too? What are they dear sir, “wild girls”? EH?? This could be the same T.D. Allamby who berated Mrs. Valdez for saying she’s a female? Just stick to the issues in future, T.D.
July 22, 2007 at 12:57 pm
I am glad you got that off of your chest and thank you.
I still say MOST MATURE and SECURE women would have considered the error trivial and not intended as an insult obviously you feel differently and that is your prerogative.
I am not going down the road you want to lead me down because this blog is intended to address more important things.
July 22, 2007 at 1:05 pm
Margaret Knight..
It is not rocket science to know that you are the echo of and same person as Carmeta Beyond. Have a nice day.
July 22, 2007 at 2:10 pm
We are quite pleased in the interest being generated on this blog, but what we do not want is persons becoming engaged in attacks on each. let us stay focused on national issues and concerns, and let us ventilate them to such an extent that we all can learn from them.
July 22, 2007 at 2:43 pm
Here is a classic example of priorities gone badly awry and in future it is not my intentioin to go down a road of responding to premeditated BLP motivated venom trying to lure writers like myself and others into a confrontation of irrelevance to what is really important to the responsible voters of Barbados.
“Carmeta Beyond” and “Margaret Knight” decided to write to me, or so they say, because I wrongly addressed Mrs. Valdez as Mr. I have said on this blog that Mrs. Valdez had every right to correct me which I accepted and duly gave her an apololgy on the public record. I also find that my opinion that MOST women would have ignored this unitentional error on my part is correct seeing as how only two out of a population of thousands has criticized me for it and a personally attacked me about it, with name calling which is a dead give away about the true intent of the two submissions. Perhaps after saying this these two will conspire to go out and conscript other women to join them and that too is their prerogative. But I think most people would or will see through this immaturity and foolishness for what it is.
There is also an obvious give away when comparing the similarity and DELIBERATE insulting language in both submissions that these two ladies are obviously known to each other and conspired with each other to do what they did and for ulterior motives. That as it may and which is their right to do, let us forget that point for the moment but here is what I mean by priorities gone awry.
Margaret Knight expounds with eloquence about her being a MEMBER OF HER GREAT PARTY THE DLP etc.
Yet I have seen not one submission from either of these two informed sources dealing with issues of political, social or economic relevance or in support of either the DLP or the BLP. Yet they both have time after obviously reading this blog that has much enlightening information on it from many different sources not just from me to call into question my comments relating to a small unintentional mistake I made an apolgized for. While having no time or seeing the need it seems, in showing interest or desire to submit anything of relevance for the betterment of their Nation Barbados. This is a blatant give away of what these two are up to.
However, ladies if you are in fact female you are not going to get to me going with your trivial nonsense, as this “Tropical Depression” is saving its fury for your BLP cretins.
July 22, 2007 at 3:03 pm
DLP:
I understand your desire for bloggers to keep personalities out of comments, and I agree. But I just wish to clear up one misunderstanding. I am NOT the same person as “Carmeta Beyond” and you can surely check that by the ISP. However, I do know who that person is and she and I were in collusion, you might say, over wording of our respective comments, but she preferred to use a pseudonym. There will be nothing further of a personal nature from me, I can assure you, but be warned – you are being hoodwinked (I think “Anonymous” realises this too) and I will ask you to watch out carefully for the vulgarity which, in a mild form, has been displayed already, and I’m sure you will censor as you think fit.
July 22, 2007 at 4:32 pm
Margaret Knight God bless you and you are a bigger woman than I first gave you credit for being and I apologize to you for my pre-judgement of you.
Anyone that has the honesty, integrity and decency and BIGNESS to admit as you have done publicly as being in collusion with Carmeta Beyond restores my faith in you and the Barbados society.
I am 72 years old and I know all about the importance in respecting women, the liberation of women and feminism. And I do not take it lightly but for my generation it is hard to adjust and not stumble and my daughters are always on my case. But let me share this with you and hopefully it might give you some insight that our (my) generations marriage commitments etc may not be as bad as some younger people might think. This past March I have been married to the same Barbadian bride for 50 years. I expect to die with that union intact!
You are correct in fighting for what you feel is right and important to your generation but do it with class and not let others influence or diminish the excellent values that your parents have instilled in you.
July 23, 2007 at 10:21 am
[...] of the DLP members, Margaret Knight, warned the DLP Blog administrator that Mr. Allamby would descend into vulgarity – and low and behold, Margaret was right on the [...]
July 24, 2007 at 6:46 am
We have to go there occasionally to find the BLP worms and trust me we will go when required!
Politics is a dirty game!
July 24, 2007 at 8:38 am
Are you calling Margaret Knight a BLP worm? I think you need to take your medication. What’s more, you can’t decide for the DLP Administration/members – not forgetting the BFP and their disgust at your sexual inuendos – what they should or shouldn’t consider vulgar. How dare you? If the mainstream media don’t consider some wording vulgar, that’s a matter for THEM. Different strokes for different folks.
July 24, 2007 at 9:15 am
TO “DLP BLOG HIRES NEW WRITER AND THE REST OF THE BLP GANGSTERS”. HERE IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE SPENDING YOUR TIME DOING INSTEAD OF WASTING IT ON ME.
AFTER SEEING THE PICTURE IN THE PAPER OF KING ARHTUR OPENING THE NEW MOUNT GAY “RUM AGING” FACILITY I SUGGEST YOU SEND HIM UP TO ENGLAND FOR SOME PLASTIC SURGERY BEFORE CALLING THE ELECTION.
BECAUSE HE LOOK LIKE HE AGING FASTER THAN THE MOUNT GAY RUM.
July 24, 2007 at 8:09 pm
You would think, wouldn’t you, that D.T. Allamby would display a little humility and apologise to the DLP Administration/members for offending them, but instead, he continues in his chauvinist, vindictive manner to berate and insult other bloggers. What is worse, he accuses them of being gutless for using pseudonyms while he uses his real name. REAL NAME? Excuse me, there may very well be a genuine “D.T., or Dave Allamby”, but that is not the REAL name of the person writing under that pseudonym. Trust me, folks, I KNOW that for a fact.
July 24, 2007 at 9:01 pm
Enterprise once again you test fate because you do not know who you are up against. I am TOM DAVID ALLAMBY of Alliston, Ontario Canada and you may check with the Canadian Consular Gutless wonder.
You see I dont need fear truth, honesty and decency. But you are also a LIAR sir when saying that you know for a FACT that I am not T.D. ALLAMBY. You are a fraud like all of the others BLP Cretins
July 24, 2007 at 10:05 pm
DLP, are you going to let this sicko call us bloggers on here BLP gangsters and cretins?
I am tempting fate, am I? That sounds like a serious threat. I think we should call the Hamilton RCMP (not the Alliston ones) in, to shove you in a straight jacket.
July 25, 2007 at 6:28 am
Dear Enterprise,
It is amazing what really gets persons up and going. For months we have been trying to get persons to use this blog for their comments on issues relevant to the formation of policy and the development of Barbados and Caribbean Society, but not to much avail. Over the last few days the hits to this blog have outstripped anything we had before. This has happened because persons have been going at each other. It is essentially a wasteful exercise as persons can better spend their time in more meaningful pursuits. We want persons to address the issues even in one liners, rather than this current exercise. We do not know who are BLP’s or DLP’s who contribute to this blog, since most persons use nicknames. We would like to urge all persons to avoid the name calling otherwise we might have to restrict their contribution to this blog. This is not what we want. Use the blog wisely.
July 25, 2007 at 7:03 am
Enterprise you call me a “sicko” man you mekkin fun. The sensible readers on here now see who is the “sicko”.
You out of the blue decide to tell people you know who I am and that I am not D.T Allamby when I have been putting on my submissions my correct initials T.D. Allamby. That was your first give away.
Then you said you knew for a “fact” I was not who I was claiming to be. That made you out a liar. Liars are people who cannot be trusted and many are truthfully in need of “professional” help.
This is what happens when people like you who are irresponsible.
July 25, 2007 at 7:34 am
Dear DLP:
I agree with you absolutely that this blog should remain a venue for issues and not personal attacks, and I personally have not engaged in such, nor would I, but have a heart! DLP members on here have been insulted in the worst way (”BLP gangsters and cretins”??) and it is human nature to lash out and hit back at such insults. It was T.D. Allamby who started the ball rolling with his well-known vulgarity and when he was taken to task about it, instead of being contrite, he turned vindictive and vicious. I would suggest an end to ALL personal attacks, including those from the person calling himself T.D. Allamby. Thank you.
July 25, 2007 at 8:50 am
DLP let me suggest with respect that this is the wrong approach and I will tell you why.
First and foremost the more these people vent the more they show their ignorance and true character and anyone reading the blog quickly realizes this and see what type of BLP supporters they are. That by extension should then make people more readily understand why the island is in the mess it is in. That is my first point.
My second point is that whether these obstructionists write their nonsense or not should not deter serious commentators from posting. And remember that until I participated the same low level of activity was present. Therefore it is not correct to imply that these few limers, BLP or simply mentally challenged people are responsible for stopping others from participating.
And here is my final point. It does not matter if T.D. Allamby or Taliana writes the results you are complaining about will continue. Because the type of people writing the venomous and ignorant rhetoric are obviously ignorant people who as you saw do not even have any shame about lying nor the intelligence to write anything of substance. Some could be on drugs for all you know and how can you get through to that culture?
I recall about 3 months ago a really nice sounding chap by the name of Mr. Porter who is a Barbadian living in Canada according to him because I do not know the man and who by his own admission was a DLP supporter started writing in the BFP. Most of his submissions were well received and many bloggers had respect for him.
Well like me and for reasons unknown to me he must have expressed an opinion/s I missed that did not please a couple of persons who frequent the BFP blog and they took out an umerciful attack on the man instead of debating him. If I am not mistaken the issue was about Porter saying he was going to write the PM of Canada and object to him visiting Barbados while Arthur was in power.
The end result of it all was that the very thing the BFP and you are trying to accomplish and that is constructive and democratic dialogue failed. Mr. Porter unlike what I am doing gave up and said to hell with it. Personally I think these people need to be engaged and shown up for what they are, liars, cowards, ignorant and have no point of view of their own to contribute.
I might well decide to do what Mr. Porter has done and maybe I should because and to be honest why participate when no other DLP supporters or others with intelligence say anything to these people insulting the intelligence of most right thinking people?
July 25, 2007 at 9:18 pm
I think why many people are not posting comments on here is because it is painfully slow and people get fed up waiting. My last one, posted before 8.00 a.m. Wednesday 25th, is still awaiting moderation at 9.15 p.m!
July 26, 2007 at 7:23 am
Thistle because of the DLP posting I will refrain from even trying to inject the slightest bit of humour into anymore of my submissions. But let me ask you to be fair and honest and listen to reason based on FACTS AND THE TRUTH.
You are saying me using the words “Gangsters” and “Cretins” to describe the BLP is offensive. Now you are a regular to the BFP.
How many times daily do YOU see writers calling the BLP crooked, thieves, that they are tiefing etc etc etc. How many times do you see extremely derogatory and far worse words than I use to describe the PM.
What about the disrespectful, insulting and insensitive attacks on the PM during his period of mourning where I stepped in under a nick name to call a halt to it.
What about back in February where so many commentators insulted the PM about his multiple children from allegedly different women, his alleged affair with a Cabinet Minister.
What about the vulgar assault by writers in the BFP on two female BLP Minsters who were alleged to be Lesbians and where one or their partner suffered genitalia mutilation. I stepped in there too and called a halt to it.
What about only a few months back when the BLP stopped monitoring do you remember this and some bloggers used the vilest most obscene graphic language that shocked Cliverton. Who vowed never to ever stop monitoring again.
I am not blaming the BFP but I needed to use these truthful EXAMPLES to make my point.
Why is it I become the primary the target to be accused of being offensive here and the BFP? Did you write to the BFP expressing your outrage about the incidents I speak about? Why is it only me and my transgressions which pale by comparison to the examples I have cited offend people? The last time this happened I asked the BFP if maybe it was because I was white and a overseas National and my reason for doing that was because of this.
Do you remember Mr,Porter a self confessed DLP suporter who is also living in Canada and according to him and which he publicly declared, that he was white. He suffered the same fate as me and he did not on one occasion use foul or derogatory language on BFP. As a matter of fact many readers seemed to really like him.
Well he came under such a personal attack and called a liar etc just like is being done to me that he quit participating in BFP. I think it had something to do with him saying he had written a letter to the Canadian Prime Minister objecting to his visit to Barbados.
You must look at things fairly and speak about them in that way. If my use of Cretins, Gangsters, BS, Vaseline and KY jelly is offensive then what is and which is still is being used in the BFP by some commentators are equally so. Truthfully in many cases though some of this rhetoric though it is a bit offensive I have never thought it that bad to act in the manner some are doing against me.
July 26, 2007 at 8:10 am
DLP:
I beg you for one chance to be allowed to defend myself against a twisted mind. I cannot allow blatant lies to be told on me by the so-called “T.D. Allamby” (who neatly gives himself away with his reference to Patrick Porter!!). To begin with, it IS offensive to call ANYONE a cretin. Notwithstanding that, my objection was to “T.D. Allamby” referring to DLP members/bloggers/administrators as “gangsters and cretins” and if you look back at his comments you will see what I mean. Please forgive me, DLP Administrator, but I simply needed to clear up the truth about that and to let “TDA” know that I definitely object to DLP members/bloggers being called “BLP gansters and cretins”. Now it is time this nonsense on here is stopped. The exact same thing happened on BFP until it was stopped. If “T.D. Allamby”/Plover/Patrick Porter or whoever else decides to continue it, I am “outa here”. End of story.
July 26, 2007 at 12:44 pm
The DLP really wants persons to stop indulging in personal discourses. We look forward to all persons making a contribution to this blog as we try to get a better understanding on thoughts about Barbados’ society and economy. If persons spend time in thrashing each other then we lose sight of the real issues. The DLP therefore calls for a time out and asks all persons who comment on this blog to desist from name calling and attacks.
Thistle, we would hate to see you go, so please do not become sidetracked. TD Allamby and all our contributors will be urged to avoid the use of emotive language to describe contributors. We value his contribution as well as yours and others, so we urge all parties to stay focused.
Furthermore, persons who are members, supporters and friends of the DLP, should not feel as though they are labeled as BLP’s. There surely is no worse name to be called in our current climate. We nevertheless recognise that they will be persons who will come online to distract us from our message. Any overtly offensive material will not see the light of day. Keep contributing to our blog.
Thistle, we apologise for the delay in moderating your comments but we were quite busy yesterday in another activity. You should note that comments are moderated at least four times a day. Mornings, Lunchtime, evenings and nights around 11. pm.
July 26, 2007 at 1:00 pm
DLP and Thistle you are both rid of me.
Cheeeeeers and the best of luck to the DLP and ALL of their genuine supporters. And I sincerely mean that and hope you form the next Government. And more importantly now that I have succumbed to the wishes of all and vacated the blog I hope more DLP supporters will submit useful items.
Obviously mine were considered trash!
July 26, 2007 at 1:16 pm
Dear TD. Allamby,
We really do not know how you can call your contributions trash. If that were so they would have been discarded. We make minor adjustments to all Posts and comments from all persons either for clarity or to remove language that might be offensive. You have had 99% of your contributions placed on the site. The current debate which has erupted between fellow bloggers should not cause anyone to withdraw from contributing.
What we are most concerned about is that persons have become distracted from the message. Look at the contributions to this post and see how many have focused on the post. We are simply asking persons to desist from being sidetracked. The crusade must be greater than the constant back and forth between persons.
Our blog remains open to all and we encourage participation, but we do not want it to degenerate by persons lashing at each other. To say we have had 300 and 400 hits do us no good if the true message becomes lost.
July 26, 2007 at 2:13 pm
DLP I hear you loud and clear but I think I too am a slow learner that is why I am vacating for the brighter people to participate.
When I wrote an article about Prescod (HE IS BLP RIGHT?) doing a survey about poverty my comments about Vaseline and KY jelly was strictly a little humour suggesting to those with a sense of humor and brains that the BLP was about to slip up the you know where of Poor Bajans again. Why should that offend DLP supporters? I dont understand that! And why would DLP supporters jump on me for saying what I did if they were really DLP supporters. This is the whole thing that confuses me why some are saying I CALLED DLP MEMBERS GANGSTERS AND CRETINS.
If a DLP member is going to write and ridicule me and call me vulgar for accusing the BLP of slipping it up the backsides of the poor why should I consider them DLP supporters. I would more suspect they were BLP supporters and offended by my comments. And why? because of what I said to Thistle who as is always the case up on their high hoirse with no sensible response to the FACTS I PROVIDED. These people are accusing me and Enterprise was also lying to impress readers in trying to discredit me. If he was a DLP member God help us!
In the BFP supposedly DLP supporters are going after the BLP worse than I do calling and saying things about them that are far worse things than I say so why are DLP members taking my comments against the BLP out on me as being offensive and they are doing the same thing or worse in the BFP. Am I missing something here?
But you (DLP) are also 100% correct this nonsense cannot go on and as I am not a voter or a resident of Barbados and merely a Citizen of your fair island I will not allow my posts to distract from what I think most Barbadians want and that is for the DLP under David Thompson to form the next Government. I will not be a part of it!
Therefore let ALL of these self righteous DLP members do what I was doing without the Offensiveness that they practice when writing in the BFP. I am sure Barbadians will look forward to their various perspectives.
July 26, 2007 at 3:15 pm
Another point I would like to add and clarify is this I have posted under T.D. Allamby here. I also went by David Allamby and Plover on the BFP.
However, I know nothing about Patrick Porter other than what he posted.
What I found interesting about Patricks posts before like me he elected to quit because of undue abuse was this. He said he met and talked with the Dipper at a house in Bath and I know exactly which house he speaks about.
People like Parick and myself do not have to take abuse because we are only trying to right a wrong that needs to be righted and that is to get rid of a party that favors only the privileged and replace it with a party DLP that looks at the big picture, which is the needs of ALL.
Having said that it is an arduous task because little has changed in Barbados over the decades when it comes to the “haves” and the “have nots”. They (the have nots) unlike me who is a fighter choose the high road and say “we trust in God”. Isn’t it sad!
When you are not wanted and especially when you are Citizen of Barbados in absentia the peoples wishes should be respected.
July 26, 2007 at 4:52 pm
DLP,
I hope you have received the e-mail from Concerned Family Member.
July 26, 2007 at 9:53 pm
Why cannot these people just get along. Stop bickering and address the issues. Each man has a contribution to make.
January 8, 2008 at 3:08 pm
wow